Your Mom SA
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Il y a 2 heures, Marcop0l0 SO a dit :
@Your Mom SA be careful, start position has changed 👍
Excellent! The concern is resolved!
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The real life position of the start appears to be between Calf Island and Great Brewster Island, facing toward Middle Brewster Island and Outer Brewster Island. The game's cartography appears to merge all of these islands. As a result, it appears as though participants must sail North (around Calf Island) or South (around Great Brewster) before turning East. However... If you hand-steer to a course of 65 degrees or 110 degrees, the game appears to suggest you will not run aground. This makes sense on a real-world map, as you would be sailing between Calf and Great Brewster and then North or South of Middle and Outer Brewster. So... This start position has produced a variety of confusing elements that could cause many participants to be unhappy within minutes of the start.
Can you please make adjustments to eliminate this confusion? You could... adjust the onscreen cartography to more accurately reflect the four islands I referenced instead of making them all look like one island... Or confirm that anyone trying to sail through there would run aground so the on-screen cartography is correct in-game... Or simply move the start position to a place that won't have these issues, such as near the Deer Island Light.
I actually really like that the start is in among the islands of Boston. It makes for some immediate tactical considerations. It's just important that the associated gameplay not be confusing.
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I agree, thanks!
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il y a 8 minutes, Epyc a dit :
Have you select final or actual at the top of the ranking. The message "no one has finished yet" appear for the final ranking, for the actual ranking you must have the ranking at the gate or "you can see the ranking after passing a gate".
Both options are telling me "no boat has crossed the finish line yet".
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Le 23/11/2021 à 07:03, Pat-Rock a dit :
Problème remonté
Hi @Pat-Rock. Thanks for the information, but... I think there's still a problem. I am indeed seeing my own ranking at Cape Horn now, but if I pull up the overall ranking list, it just tells me that no one has finished yet. Can the ranking list be corrected so that racers can see the rankings of the rest of the fleet at their latest gate?
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Thanks for telling my I'm 7th. For some reason, I still just see "-"
I'd like to know the first 6, but I guess there's no way to know unless you're following them...
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Il y a 3 heures, From a dit :
At least we're classified, but yes the general ranking isnt available.
I'm not seeing a classification for myself yet. It just tells me the ranking is unavailable.
It won't matter in the end... There's no way the people who are crossing the equator now (including me) will be able to put up winning times on this run... But it would be nice to be able to see who else is trying so early.
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Hmm... I've crossed the first intermediate gate, and the ranking there isn't working yet. Hopefully that can be fixed soon.
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Am I the only one with this problem, or is there a broader bug?
My first run finished in 43 days, 0 hours, 44 minutes. This was the 108th-fastest time. If I pull up the rankings page, it still shows me in 108th place.
However, my second run was active when the race closed, and I had passed the equator on my return trip. The ranking it was showing me in the user interface was the ranking of my first run's equator return time, which was 135th at the time of close. (I think most of the difference was from the excellent performance of several boats who were very close to winning the event but didn't quite have enough time to reach the finish line).
The issue is... The user interface is showing 135th as my final result. I don't care much because the difference between 108th and 135th is not large and I'm not competing for VSR, but I would guess that if others had similar issues, it could have more upsetting impacts on some users. (Also, it probably reduced the number of credits I earned).
Anyway... For others who finished a good first run and then had an active second run going when the race closed... Did you have the same problem?
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Once McFly is able to publish the results, it should be possible to define the list of "who can possibly win the series". If it's scored per McFly's calculations, then a win is worth a lot more points than second (and so on), so technically, the answer would be "anyone who is within 4800 points, minus their worst score so far, of first". Winning the third race would produce that gain, if the current leader doesn't place better in the third race than their own first two finishes.
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As a general rule (not just in virtual sailing), a prize of substantial value should never be offered without clearly defining the terms by which the prize will be determined prior to the start of competition. Otherwise, you're always going to have confusion about who really won, angry people who think they won and are told they didn't, etc. I started this thread in hopes of helping to avoid that, but unfortunately didn't get a response. Hopefully VR will make a formal statement that clearly defines how the prize will be calculated, before the start of Leg 2.
I am guessing that the joker was added because of the waypoint issues in Leg 1. With the same tricky coastal navigation in legs 2 and 3, they probably decided it would be best to mitigate associated risk with a joker, after deciding to not re-start the leg.
I'm also guessing that Pat-Rock's statement about cumulative time may be incorrect. BGStmMarine is correct that past series for the last few years have all been calculated as a sum of points, with the points being the same as the credits earned in each event (which is the formula he provided). I'm guessing that this is still true here, but something was lost in translation from VR to Pat-Rock to Toppen and French to English. But we haven't heard anything official directly from VR, so we have to assume for now that Pat-Rock's information is correct, which only makes sense with a joker if it's a cumulative deficit to the leader rather than a cumulative elapsed time.
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I guess I wasn't the only one to suffer an unexplained course change into an island... Very frustrating. Particularly a shame with a large prize available. If this is a widespread problem, perhaps a re-start should be considered.
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This event has an excellent prize for the combined winner of the first three events. May I request that the terms of calculating the winner be published clearly before the first race starts?
Lowest sum of three results? Highest sum of some kind of calculated points earned? Cumulative time across the three events?
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Is there a ranking or list of participating "Certified" boats anywhere?
From the boats I can see, it looks like Alberto Bona has continued to lead, despite spending a little time on the wrong side of the ice limit yesterday, with Loick Peyron gaining.
Strange, though... Quentin Vlamynck was a Certified boat at the start of the race, but isn't anymore. He passed Bona when Bona went into the ice zone. So... he'd be the leader among Certified boats, if his "certified" status is restored.
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How does VR define the first boat to reach the "Nemo Point Area"?
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Strictly speaking, is the penalty incurred when you hit the thin red line, or the dotted white "danger zone"?
I believe the red line... Just wanted to confirm.
Also, in 2016, there was a bug that if your boat was traveling toward the red line, and turned away (such as a tack or gybe), you could still incur the penalty without actually crossing the line. It seemed that the computation that decided the penalty looked at your projected path for the 10-minute cycle, rather than your actual minute-by-minute path. I don't think the ice limit has been used since then, so I'd like to ask... Has this issue been resolved?
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They haven't corrected the English version yet... But presumably they will eventually.
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Thanks! That'll be October 5 Paris time. October 4 evening US time.
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I'd like to ask again for confirmation of the closure date. The group I'm in is unlikely to be able to finish by October 4, but is likely to be able to finish by October 10. Can we please get confirmation of which closure date is accurate, so that we won't waste 3 weeks of effort? @Vector
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The message was probably a mistake. I have never seen them change a closure date for an event like this. I just wanted to raise the question so that it can be corrected ASAP if they got it wrong.
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A message was posted in the game today, stating that the Closing Date for NY-SF is October 10... But... The game itself says October 4 (or the early morning hours of October 5, in some time zones). Which is correct?
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Thanks!
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The good news is that VR's goal is clear. They want the box to be a proper TSS exclusion zone. And they've recognized that there's an issue because they made a change. And there's still time for them to put in a successful solution. The leaders shouldn't get to 4 until the French afternoon Wednesday. And the leaders' routes probably won't be dramatically impacted by a correction to this issue until an hour or two later. So they have almost all of the French Wednesday workday to resolve this.
If it isn't properly resolved by the end of the French Wednesday workday, then Thursday will involve aggravated people accusing the boats who sail an "accepted" course of cheating, etc. Hopefully that can be avoided.
They used "ice exclusion zones" a long time ago, but I haven't seen them since the last Vendee. Honestly, if they can't achieve what they want with gates, they could just stick a red island in there. Anyone who tries to sail through runs aground. Ugly, but effective.
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Thanks! It looks like a large fleet will beat my time by a day soon... but... perhaps they'll have worse luck than me in the Pacific.
There are a few boats who started after me, who will be closing the gap on me in fleet compression in the North Atlantic... I'm not sure if I can stay ahead of them by enough. We shall see...