Your Mom SA
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When I reached Cape Leeuwin, I wrote down the top 40 boats on the Cape Leeuwin leaderboard, and noted which groups they were with on the water. I did the same when I reached Cape Horn today. I also observed that no one new joined the Cape Leeuwin leaderboard after the group I'm in. It is possible that a contender could still be on the water behind the group that I'm in, but if they are, they're outside the top 50 Cape Leeuwin times, or they haven't reached Cape Leeuwin yet.
Here are the boats I know of that have a chance to put up Top 50 finishing times (which, right now, would mean beating ~40.5 days)... Each group is sorted with the best times at my latest reference point first... but things may have changed since then.... my last reference point on Poisson Rouge's group is more than a week old... Anyway... If people know of additional boats that should be on this list, please feel free to add them. The groups themselves are listed in order by progress toward the finish. If anyone knows of additional groups that have a chance to finish well, please feel free to add a group.
(Oh... and.... I'm not trying to replace the Google Excel spreadsheet. That document is great, and anyone who wants to add times to that should please go ahead. This is intended just to be a list of contenders to watch, without split times, etc)
Group Poisson Rouge (Recently crossed the Equator northbound in 33-34 days)
Poisson Rouge
Stormbringer
Yarimca
JD1
Truffle Hunter
6 Mousses
Mulo34
1_ris_solent
Sylvainmeteo
Cloque
Waterhammer
Monera
Vincer75
BRA KCette
Lydyann
Snouky
Minhasilva
Gold Pirate
KLM2235
Jet704
Inolia
JD_Voison
Macotoso
Veloce
OL3K
Raf28
Calagan
Group Wakamoa (passed Cape Horn 3 days ago, with some under 25 days)
Wakamoa
The-Undertaker
LaMerNoire
Portacosta
Raiderofthestorm
Zemarsu
MobyDick
Malh
nicobaiona
Carowj
AllianceMaladie
Ultra Orange
ftirel
Faustino
Geronimo
Yasujiro
DRICA
Vivaneau
Spymos
Hipolou
Aspiln
Tremja
Quiche_Tahitienne
Paskl
Ricokar
Rafal71
Quinteiro2
Group Luxairfrance (a few under 25 days, several just over)
Luxairfrance
PSG/3001
Philou dodouce
Your Mom SA
Nshar
KOVA-Hun
Barnum
Largo67
DBX83
Tarahumara
Pastis52
Dogboris
Orologiaio
PhiPhi17600
Hurocatau
Pereba
MeaneAJ
Big Bird
Possible later contenders?
Gala5356 (in South Pacific at 22 days)
ScoobyDoo
Yannito
Raketa
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It has been a while since the last time I chose to not do a race, so I am uncertain... Is it possible to view the leaderboard for a race that you are not participating in? So far, all I can see is the "Race Started Join!" button.
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My best guess is that they don't actually want a large number of entries in this race. I think they want it to be a small group of racers who really want to race with, and interact with, Loick Peyron. With 2,000+ entries, he would be bombarded with communication all day and would not be able to respond to everyone.
For that purpose, I think the 25 Euro price is actually reasonable. Consider it a fee for the exclusive opportunity to interact with a famous sailor.
But if I'm right, then Category 5 or 6 would still be appropriate. Making it Category 2 is what bothers me.
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59 minutes ago, Oxven said:
Bonsoir,
Contrairement au courses traditionnel qui vous sont proposées tout au long de l'année, ce nouveau mode de course (qui est certes payant), vous permet de courir contre l'une des plus grande star de la voile.
De nouvelles courses vous seront proposés très bientôt et qui seront en accès normal. Il s'agit juste ici d'un nouveau mode de jeu en plus.
Thank you, Oxven. While I am not happy about it, I really appreciate the information.
Is there any chance of getting into this race via Credits instead of Euros? I've been buying Full Packs for Volvo and Clipper, so I have a pile of credits to spend. My plan was to spend them on random races like this one, and now I can't. You can buy 5,000 Credits for 24.99 Euros, right? Maybe the Full Pack entry fee for this race could be offered for 5,000 Credits?
I don't mind the limited-entry concept for an occasional special race like this, but I'm surprised that it's being marked as Category 2. I thought the Category was supposed to be based more on the number of entries and length of the race... For a 1-week race with a small number of entries, I would guess Category 6 or maybe 5.
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I am unable to access this race without buying the Full Pack. Is the Full Pack purchase required in order to do this race?
With a price of 24.99 Euros for a 1-2 week race, I'm wondering how many people will actually do it if the Full Pack is required.
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40 minutes ago, LaMerNoire said:
hello mate, we asked it since a long time... as you can imagine, no answer from VR even if they try solutions as no name on boats in prestart... as you say, it's free so it doesn't really matter but i well remember when i paid challenge and 've been attacked by "trolls" (fuck*ng idiots)... that drove me crazyyyyyyyy !!!!!! the better way is to sail on top of the float and be faster
good wind
Thanks! With it all being in French, it's hard to know what has already been discussed.
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By the way... I'm not talking about people trying to simply use the rules to win with aggressive racing. That's ok as far as I'm concerned. For example... a quick gybe from port to starboard too close for a boat to get away, resulting in them fouling you... in real life, you wouldn't be able to get away with that... in virtual racing, you usually can... I don't have a problem with that, and will do that kind of thing myself. I'm talking about people abandoning all efforts to actually race, specifically to ruin someone else's race.
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On occasion, I have encountered cases where a boat will ignore the race course and instead try to ruin my race. For example, a boat that turns downwind before getting to the windward mark, and then sits on my wind no matter how much I try to get away from him. Even if I let him pass me, he'll turn back to get back on me again. There are other cases where it's harder to know if it's intentional or not... For example, if a boat stays on starboard tack after the start beyond the layline, forcing me to overstand by a lot... maybe they're doing that just to hurt me, but I think more often that it's just that they don't realize they've passed the layline.
When this is intentional, there are two possible explanations... one is that partners are "team racing" where one boat slows down the competition so that the other can win. The other is simply "trolling" where someone alone simply enjoys ruining someone else's race.
This doesn't matter in free beta testing. I don't really care if someone ruins my race if I didn't pay for it. But... What can be done about this when VR eventually starts running Inshore regattas that cost credits? This is the equivalent of a Rule 69 protest in real racing. Do we have to take note of the offending boat's name and email it to VR Support, or is there a simpler way to file a complaint? Would we get any redress for our ruined race (or credits back), or is disqualification of the offender the only thing we can ask for? Does VR retain any logs of the races so that they could check to see what really happened if necessary?
That's all re-active... can anything be done pro-actively? For example, maybe if a boat hasn't rounded a mark yet, it shouldn't be able to affect the wind of a boat that has rounded that mark?
The truth is, though, that I've never paid for an Inshore virtual race and I'm not sure if I ever will. I'm here for the Offshore stuff. I just do Inshore when there aren't any active Offshore races. So... I don't mind if nothing is done about this. I just thought it might be an interesting topic for discussion.
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For what it's worth... I think I figured out why my autosails turned off in that Clipper leg. I have posted an explanation in the "Indicate a bug" forum, for anyone interested in how to avoid that risk.
The bottom line, though, is that it simply isn't worthwhile to pay for options for a race unless you can do it on a desktop machine. The App simply can't support the paid for options well enough to be worthwhile. I hope VR will improve the App to work as well as the desktop interface eventually, as I would prefer to be able to race just as competitively on my phone as on a desktop... but it doesn't appear to be a priority for them right now.
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I did some experimentation. I'm not sure how the app turned my autosails off. I'm very upset because I'm pretty sure I'd be on my way to a top-10 finish in this Clipper leg if this hadn't happened.
I was able to determine one thing for sure, though... The App does NOT ask you to confirm when you turn off your autosails, like the desktop interface does. So if I somehow did it myself accidentally, the App would not have asked me to confirm. Since I know the desktop application asks for confirmation, and I knew I had never been asked by the App to confirm turning off of autosails, of course it never occurred to me that my sails might be off until the damage was done.
If VR could please add the same confirmation step to the App that already exists in the desktop interface, that would help to keep this problem from happening again. Of course, the App still will be quite limited if it doesn't allow more precision in scheduling than hourly straight-line scheduling and doesn't recognize the schedules that were previously submitted on a desktop. So VR has a LOT of work to do before it could be worthwhile to pay for a race if the user can't regularly access a desktop computer.
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It looks like the App can only set scheduled maneuvers on the hour, not by the minute. Correct?
It looks like the App can only schedule future maneuvers for straight lines, not TWA. Correct?
When I have scheduled maneuvers on my desktop computer, and then I try to update my plan on the App, the App shows all of my pre-scheduled maneuvers with a direction of 361 degrees, so I have to start over instead of updating my original plan. Is this expected?
I was doing very well in the latest leg of the Clipper race. I was among the boats that are now running in positions 4 through 10. I was in very good shape to place in the top 20 or better. I used the App to make some course changes on Saturday, but I did NOT turn Autosails off myself. On Sunday, I got back to a desk and set a careful route, and then I raced my real boat that afternoon. When I got back online that evening, I discovered Autosails had been turned off and my boat had been running at TWA 130 for 7 hours. The leaders were working to get out of the middle of a weak High, so the 20 miles I lost during that time quickly built to 30, then 40, and now it's about 80. The race is ruined. Two weeks of hard work to stay with the leaders were ruined. All because I had to use the App for one day. Does the App turn Autosails off somehow? I'm certain that I did not turn it off myself.
If you add up all of these points, it seems that most of the options you can pay for are useless on the App. My conclusion is that I should NEVER pay to do a race unless I'm certain I can be at a desktop computer regularly from start to finish. This is really unfortunate because I enjoy these races and I was really enjoying this Clipper leg until this disaster.
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Remaining Contenders
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It could still change for the better (for them). Of course, the rest of us in other groups are hoping it doesn't.